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A warning

Postby DLinkOZ » Tue Dec 18, 2001 6:50 pm

For any OESM hosted clans who have opted to have admin mod installed. I stated that enabling the fun module (not even necessary to set it to on, just loading the module) would leave you open for server crashes. Well I saw it myself today for the first time. It was on RRS's server, and here's what the crash log looks like (remember, there's nothing I can do about crashes like this):

(TEAM) |/|/ 0 0 t: heey watch this
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:03: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say_team "heey watch this"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:03: "|RRS|Hazard[pvt]<37><205006><Red>" triggered "info_player_teamspawn"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:03: "|RRS|Hazard[pvt]<37><205006><Red>" triggered "#inital_spawn_equip"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:04: "CockTease<62><205852><Blue>" triggered "#cz_bcap2"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:04: "CockTease<62><205852><Blue>" triggered "#blue cap, move red"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:04: "CockTease<62><205852><Blue>" triggered "#blue cap, move blue"
Could not find wav to play for
NET_QueuePacket: Oversize packet from 65.32.92.87:27685
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
|/|/ 0 0 t: glow blue
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say "glow blue"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
|/|/ 0 0 t: glow red
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say "glow red"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
|/|/ 0 0 t: glow blue
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say "glow blue"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
|/|/ 0 0 t: glow red
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say "glow red"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
|/|/ 0 0 t: glow red
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say "glow red"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
|/|/ 0 0 t: glow blue
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say "glow blue"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
|/|/ 0 0 t: glow red
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say "glow red"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
|/|/ 0 0 t: glow blue
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say "glow blue"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
|/|/ 0 0 t: glow red
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say "glow red"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
|/|/ 0 0 t: glow red
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say "glow red"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
|/|/ 0 0 t: glow blue
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: "|/|/ 0 0 t<63><154011><Blue>" say "glow blue"
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
SZ_GetSpace: overflow on netchan->message
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: [ADMIN] (say) Glowing is only allowed during fun mode.
L 12/18/2001 - 16:39:08: FATAL ERROR (shutting down): SZ_GetSpace: overflow without FSB_ALLOWOVERFLOW set on Server Reliable Datagram
FATAL ERROR (shutting down): SZ_GetSpace: overflow without FSB_ALLOWOVERFLOW set on Server Reliable Datagram
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A warning

Postby DLinkOZ » Thu Dec 27, 2001 4:40 pm

Next version of jedi will be a metamod plugin, not an adminmod plugin. So I'll be able to ditch adminmod and go with just the base metamod.
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A warning

Postby [OESM]Sephiroth » Thu Dec 27, 2001 7:24 pm

This is another topic that pi$$e$ me off. Why should any admin have to download a MOTHERF*****G cheat-detector just so he/she can run a server?! I am so disgusted at the $hit that if I saw one of these "cheat-authors" face to face, I'd wind up in jail for assault. I have tried AdminMod and it screwed me up so badly I wound up deleting /usr/games/hlds_l and reinstalling everything. I don't run adminmod or that other one now, nor will I. I know I can get on and kick a ton of arse, as can Frost. If somebody comes on and starts getting shots that never miss, or that do quad damage on every shot, or they emit a glow on the walls without a powerup, I kick and ban if necessary. I'm not making a d@mn dime on the server and I wind up paying for half the line/service, so if I catch a cheater (or one of my clanners does) we'll just kick and possibly ban them. Note that I DID run AdminMod for a few hours during which players did join and fight, but I didn't get a single cheater, so it was basically watsing my resources and my drive space (puny 3.2gb total). Personally I say that a user's ISP should handle stuff dealing with cheats. If somebody can PROVE user X is cheating, contact their ISP and show them the proof and then pray they either take X's connection away or warn him or something. Unfortuneatly only DOS attacks warrant any action, which is gay. This is denying a normal player a service/fun, is it not?
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A warning

Postby Mr.Magoo » Fri Dec 28, 2001 1:43 am

FYI, you need flood protection enabled, regardless if the fun mode is off or on. People can flood the timeleft command, for christ sakes.
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A warning

Postby DeSyPhUr » Fri Dec 28, 2001 7:00 pm

Hey Sephiroth,
I agree with your statement about having to DL a whole nother admin cheat detector when rcon is sufficient. And both you and I know PB doesnt stop a damn thing so its out the window. Apparently though, Paladin is a new type of PunkBuster that is unhackable but that just puts us back to wtf should a server have to DL another damn cheat protection device. It is stupid and I agree. But to start a debate on this Jedinocheat thing, jedinocheat is like a relief to us in Counter-Strike. I play TFC now but I got turned onto CS before i even knew who Morgan Freeman was soo back to what I was saying. Its a relief to us admin in CS. CS is swarming with haxors so damn bad right now its not even fun to play. And as an admin your job is to weed out the cheaters so others can play fair and fun. Well as a CS admin you might as well give up playing and be a spectator. I try to play but damned if im not going afk for 3 rounds banning/kicking cheaters atleast 15 times in a map. Im not even exagerating too. Here is a quick glimps at OESM-CS server bans since the Jedinocheat was installed:

Cheat Type Number of Occurances
OGC installed 149
Flautz Wallhack installed 127
XQZ2 installed 82
HLH 28
Anti-Recoil Script 1
Sphere 1
Total 388

So in closing, Sephiroth, I completely agree with the tfc side of the arguement but CS servers and admins need this jedinocheat and adminmods to make it easier for us to get more play time and for it to be a privelage not a chore to be an admin.

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A warning

Postby DeSyPhUr » Sat Dec 29, 2001 2:45 am

Thx Dlink you do know your shiat. And thx again for the rcon PW reset
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A warning

Postby [OESM]Sephiroth » Sat Dec 29, 2001 12:26 pm

I heard of Paladin, looked at the site, and said "This isn't sh*t!", and obviously I was right! Didn't take the cheaters long to figure out a way around it. Yet another reason i love the Unreal Engine and it's dynamic memory allocation! You don't see anything worse than a dang script in it, and not many people script in UnrealScript due to it's complexity when compared to say, Quake I-III or HL. One huge fix wouold be for Valve to re-write the memory allocation code and change it to dynamic from static. That would make trainers and other cheats that need to modify a specific variable almost impossible to use. Imagine trying to find the var at the begining of each level, then only having five to ten minutes left to play. Lol!
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A warning

Postby DLinkOZ » Sat Dec 29, 2001 1:41 pm

2 things.

Paladin has been compromised. I've screenshots myself of paladin giving the server say that the player is authenticated, while that same player has the OGC menu up. Back to the drawing board.

Also, those cheat listings is for 5 OESM hosted servers. Albeit, the CS and Neo-TF servers account for a gross number of caught cheaters.
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A warning

Postby RackDaddy » Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:30 am

I think the main reason why my server gets so many cheaters is that we get more users than most other servers. I'll tell you though, cheaters apparently have more class than the noncheaters do. Ever since we started running the anticheat, we've been getting a bunch of kids who think TFC is a "your mama" joke chat room.

I'm considering ridding my BANNED.CFG of everyone, giving everyone a clean slate for the New Year. Maybe some people made resolutions to stop cheating..?? lol Would this terrible mess up the current BANNED.CFG and recreate many duplicate entries?

I figure, give everyone another chance.. if they rejoin with the same cheats, they will get rebanned again anyways. I think a 500+ banned.cfg might start lagging the server. <g>
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