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tfc5 ping problems

Postby [CD]MadMan » Tue Oct 23, 2001 2:22 am

Something that has been going on for some time now is the high ping rate to all the servers on tfc5(oesm13,14,16,17,26). The servers use to ping in the 50 to 60 range from california, now there well into the 100+ range. At the same time (oesm9, 10) are normal. Can someone help with this...its been an on going problem for about 3 weeks now. [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img]
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tfc5 ping problems

Postby DLinkOZ » Tue Oct 23, 2001 8:42 am

I need to be informed while it's happening, and an IP of someone who it's happening to. As of right now, no router of the 12 I go through is over 43ms, with the destination responding in 37ms.

But if I can hop on the box while it's happening trace someone who's experiencing it, we can get the source of the problem pinpointed.
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tfc5 ping problems

Postby [CD]MadMan » Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:51 am

K, i try to get you some IP's. If you look at ktank post thats 4 or 5 down from this one on the forum. He did a good job of IDing the ip with the problems. I have talked to rez about it and they two are having the problem. While 5 miles away tfc3 is perfect.
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tfc5 ping problems

Postby DLinkOZ » Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:31 am

I'll check his IP and your's. The problem lies in that your return route may be totally different than the route that took you to the server. This is where me tracing back from the server to you can usually shed a little light (if I spike in hop 1, it's nailed down pretty well).
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tfc5 ping problems

Postby DLinkOZ » Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:34 am

Here's what I got for both of your IP's:

Ktank -

traceroute to 64.109.194.208 (64.109.194.208), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 204.167.245.11 (204.167.245.11) 5.077 ms 1.980 ms 2.108 ms
2 s8-0-0-20.dallas1-cr1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.112.141) 12.217 ms 30.666 ms 3.044 ms
3 f0-0.dallas1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.28.1) 8.264 ms 23.376 ms 22.953 ms
4 p4-0.crtntx1-cr9.bbnplanet.net (4.0.3.177) 22.383 ms 4.534 ms 31.908 ms
5 p8-3.crtntx1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.9.237) 23.067 ms 10.144 ms 4.115 ms
6 p2-0.crtntx1-cr11.bbnplanet.net (4.24.9.250) 5.788 ms 14.092 ms 5.881 ms
7 ATM3-0.BR2.DFW9.ALTER.NET (204.255.168.165) 21.818 ms 10.989 ms 11.025 ms
8 0.so-1-3-0.XL2.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.99.214) 8.934 ms 9.929 ms 7.783 ms
9 0.so-0-0-0.TL2.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.181) 5.979 ms 21.211 ms 7.112 ms
10 0.so-1-2-0.TL2.CHI2.ALTER.NET (152.63.146.61) 55.006 ms 36.687 ms 27.289 ms
11 0.so-2-0-0.XL2.CHI2.ALTER.NET (152.63.67.110) 49.425 ms 29.387 ms 29.957 ms
12 0.so-7-0-0.XR2.CHI2.ALTER.NET (152.63.67.134) 49.948 ms 63.838 ms 44.240 ms
13 192.at-6-0-0.XR2.CHI4.ALTER.NET (152.63.65.10) 28.875 ms 28.855 ms 47.226 ms
14 190.ATM10-0-0.GW1.DET1.ALTER.NET (146.188.208.197) 118.205 ms 42.671 ms 57.717 ms
15 500.Hssi9-0.AR2.CLE2.ALTER.NET (137.39.146.50) 50.839 ms 71.461 ms 113.331 ms
16 sms1-0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net (206.141.194.242) 48.739 ms 84.305 ms 52.290 ms
17 adsl-64-109-194-208.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net (64.109.194.208) 103.257 ms 58.784 ms 55.541 ms

Not bad, actually. Now your's -

traceroute to 24.24.227.59 (24.24.227.59), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 204.167.245.11 (204.167.245.11) 4.775 ms 3.587 ms 3.303 ms
2 s8-0-0-20.dallas1-cr1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.112.141) 20.109 ms 9.118 ms 3.149 ms
3 f0-0.dallas1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.28.1) 3.183 ms 3.031 ms 3.059 ms
4 p3-3.crtntx1-cr9.bbnplanet.net (4.24.5.37) 4.096 ms 9.245 ms 4.725 ms
5 p8-3.crtntx1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.9.237) 7.377 ms 22.575 ms 4.071 ms
6 p15-0.crtntx1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.114) 6.034 ms 5.495 ms 4.365 ms
7 p2-0.crtntx1-cr8.bbnplanet.net (4.24.8.198) 3.894 ms 7.761 ms 12.373 ms
8 acr1-sonet2-2-1-0.Dallasdan.cw.net (208.172.131.209) 8.601 ms 10.648 ms 4.604 ms
9 acr2-loopback.Dallasdan.cw.net (208.172.130.62) 4.829 ms 6.891 ms 5.775 ms
10 acr2-loopback.Anaheim.cw.net (208.172.34.62) 60.180 ms 53.570 ms 57.209 ms
11 serviceco-llc.Anaheim.cw.net (208.172.33.222) 53.702 ms 67.049 ms 55.413 ms
12 SRP3-0.ORNGCA1-GSR2.socal.rr.com (66.75.161.187) 64.008 ms 63.270 ms 54.374 ms
13 sc-24-30-161-187.socal.rr.com (24.30.161.187) 71.169 ms 66.188 ms 54.273 ms
14 POS4-1-0.WMNSCA2-RTR1.socal.rr.com (24.30.161.33) 54.940 ms 80.961 ms 72.125 ms
15 POS2-0.WMNSCA2-UBR1.socal.rr.com (24.30.161.105) 57.390 ms 55.165 ms 55.496 ms
16 * * *

Ok, nothing stands out too much here. I'll do it again during busier hours and see what I get.
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tfc5 ping problems

Postby [CD]MadMan » Wed Oct 24, 2001 4:32 am

Not sure if this helps but I ran this at 2:30 am and it still pinged hi. Note its not just me. Its everyone. Node Data
Node Net Who IP Address Location Node Name
1 - - 24.24.227.59 Garden Grove d
2 1 - 10.32.48.1 Unknown
3 2 1 24.30.161.102 Anaheim pos1-0-0.wmnsca2-rtr1.socal.rr.com
4 2 1 24.30.161.34 Anaheim pos9-1-0.gdgvca1-rtr2.socal.rr.com
5 3 1 24.30.161.184 Anaheim sc-24-30-161-184.socal.rr.com
6 4 1 66.75.161.190 Anaheim srp3-0.orngca4-gsr1.socal.rr.com
7 5 2 208.172.35.129 Unknown acr1-serial2-1-0-0.anaheim.cw.net
8 5 2 208.172.35.206 Unknown cable-and-wireless-peering.anaheim.cw.net
9 6 3 4.25.112.2 33.967N, 118.242W p0-0.lsanca2-br1.bbnplanet.net
10 7 3 4.24.5.46 33.967N, 118.242W p15-0.lsanca2-br2.bbnplanet.net
11 7 3 4.24.5.62 Plano p9-0.crtntx1-br2.bbnplanet.net
12 7 3 4.24.10.113 Plano p15-0.crtntx1-br1.bbnplanet.net
13 7 3 4.24.9.238 Plano p2-0.crtntx1-cr9.bbnplanet.net
14 7 3 4.24.5.38 Dallas p4-0-0.dallas1-br1.bbnplanet.net
15 7 3 4.0.28.5 Dallas f0-0.dallas1-cr1.bbnplanet.net
16 7 3 4.0.112.142 Unknown s1.altinet.bbnplanet.net
17 8 - 204.167.248.199 Dallas


Packet Data
Node High Low Avg Tot Lost
1 0 0 0 1 0
2 10 0 5 2 0
3 90 20 55 2 0
4 27 11 19 2 0
5 17 0 8 2 0
6 11 0 5 2 0
7 38 14 26 2 0
8 22 22 22 2 0
9 28 24 26 2 0
10 31 14 22 2 0
11 64 61 62 2 0
12 54 47 50 2 0
13 57 47 52 2 0
14 57 49 53 2 0
15 200 56 128 2 0
16 101 80 90 2 0
17 94 64 79 2 0
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tfc5 ping problems

Postby [CD]MadMan » Wed Oct 24, 2001 4:37 am

I have some better trace result I can send you in the morning. They were run just before guild practice and may give a better picture of the problem.
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tfc5 ping problems

Postby [CD]MadMan » Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:22 am

Can't help but think the problem is with IP 4.0.112.142. Pings in the 300 range...
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tfc5 ping problems

Postby Crusader » Thu Oct 25, 2001 11:38 pm

Here's mine:
C:\>tracert 204.167.248.198

Tracing route to 204.167.248.198 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms
2 40 ms 70 ms 50 ms 66-42-53-6.lsan.as.net [66.42.53.6]
3 50 ms 50 ms 50 ms 66-42-53-1.lsan.as.net [66.42.53.1]
4 50 ms 50 ms 51 ms 66-52-62-209.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com [66.52.62.209
]
5 50 ms 50 ms 50 ms csc12001.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com [63.93.64.1]
6 50 ms 50 ms 50 ms serial5-0-3.hsipaccess1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [
209.245.88.57]
7 50 ms 50 ms 60 ms lo0.mp1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [209.247.8.241]
8 50 ms 80 ms 60 ms pos8-0.core2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [209.247.10.
198]
9 50 ms 50 ms 50 ms p5-2.lsanca2-cr1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.118.29]
10 50 ms 51 ms 50 ms p3-0.lsanca2-br2.bbnplanet.net [4.25.111.2]
11 80 ms 120 ms 91 ms p9-0.crtntx1-br2.bbnplanet.net [4.24.5.62]
12 80 ms 90 ms 90 ms p15-0.crtntx1-br1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.10.113]
13 80 ms 90 ms 80 ms p2-0.crtntx1-cr9.bbnplanet.net [4.24.9.238]
14 80 ms 140 ms 90 ms p4-0-0.dallas1-br1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.5.38]
15 80 ms 90 ms 90 ms f0-0.dallas1-cr1.bbnplanet.net [4.0.28.5]
16 230 ms 150 ms 180 ms s1.altinet.bbnplanet.net [4.0.112.142]
17 140 ms 210 ms 130 ms 204.167.248.198

Trace complete.

As MadMan has stated, this is not a problem for just myself, but for all that play on my server (OESM13), which is normally only on match night (Tuesday's 5vs5 STA). I used to play on the WolfeDen server before mine was available, and there never seemed to be a problem there, but I also think it was at the other Dallas location, right? Is the total amount of bandwidth available greater at the other location than where the tfc5 server is? I think in your specs it's listing the other Dallas as an OC3+, while the tfc5 location is T3, right? Ok shoot me if you want, but I don't know a lot about bandwidth allocation or anything like that, but just looking at the specs, I'd think the original Dallas location offers a bit more, right?
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tfc5 ping problems

Postby Ktank » Mon Nov 05, 2001 9:25 pm

here is another ping plot for ya

Target Name: N/A
IP: 204.167.248.198
Date/Time: 11/5/2001 8:17:34 PM

1 110 ms 82 ms 69 ms 69 ms 82 ms 69 ms 55 ms 82 ms 82 ms 69 ms adsl-dynamic3-1.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net [64.108.90.1]
2 55 ms 55 ms 55 ms 69 ms 55 ms 55 ms 55 ms 69 ms 69 ms 69 ms ar1-1.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net [206.141.194.203]
3 165 ms 96 ms 124 ms 96 ms 124 ms 96 ms 192 ms 110 ms 261 ms 248 ms Serial3-2.GW5.CLE1.ALTER.NET [137.39.144.29]
4 96 ms 97 ms 110 ms 109 ms 137 ms 109 ms 124 ms 110 ms 165 ms 96 ms 516.at-5-0-0.XR2.CHI4.ALTER.NET [152.63.69.198]
5 110 ms 96 ms 96 ms 110 ms 151 ms 124 ms 137 ms 110 ms 151 ms 96 ms 194.at-2-0-0.XR2.CHI2.ALTER.NET [152.63.65.9]
6 96 ms 83 ms 96 ms 109 ms 151 ms 123 ms 124 ms 110 ms 151 ms 82 ms 0.so-2-1-0.XL2.CHI2.ALTER.NET [152.63.67.133]
7 96 ms 82 ms 110 ms 96 ms 151 ms 124 ms 123 ms 123 ms 151 ms 96 ms POS7-0.BR3.CHI2.ALTER.NET [152.63.68.5]
8 179 ms 96 ms 123 ms 110 ms 124 ms 123 ms 179 ms 110 ms 289 ms 275 ms a3-0-1.chcgil2-cr2.bbnplanet.net [4.24.203.29]
9 124 ms 96 ms 109 ms 82 ms 137 ms 96 ms 137 ms 110 ms 137 ms 110 ms so-2-3-0.chcgil2-br2.bbnplanet.net [4.24.9.33]
10 124 ms 82 ms 96 ms 97 ms 138 ms 96 ms 124 ms 110 ms 138 ms 96 ms so-7-0-0.chcgil2-br1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.5.217]
11 193 ms 96 ms 109 ms 110 ms 137 ms 124 ms 192 ms 123 ms 275 ms 288 ms p13-0.iplvin1-br1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.9.58]
12 110 ms 83 ms 96 ms 96 ms 138 ms 96 ms 124 ms 138 ms 151 ms 96 ms p15-0.iplvin1-br2.bbnplanet.net [4.24.10.154]
13 138 ms 123 ms 138 ms 124 ms 164 ms 138 ms 151 ms 206 ms 192 ms 137 ms p9-0.crtntx1-br1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.10.213]
14 151 ms 123 ms 137 ms 123 ms 165 ms 137 ms 151 ms 206 ms 192 ms 137 ms p2-0.crtntx1-cr9.bbnplanet.net [4.24.9.238]
15 247 ms 137 ms 151 ms 137 ms 164 ms 151 ms 247 ms 178 ms 330 ms * p3-0-0.dallas1-br1.bbnplanet.net [4.0.3.178]
16 233 ms 137 ms 137 ms 137 ms 165 ms 178 ms 248 ms 206 ms 316 ms * f0-0.dallas1-cr1.bbnplanet.net [4.0.28.5]
17 206 ms 192 ms 260 ms 275 ms 206 ms 234 ms 316 ms 247 ms 343 ms 261 ms s1.altinet.bbnplanet.net [4.0.112.142]
18 206 ms 233 ms * 247 ms 206 ms 220 ms 302 ms 247 ms 329 ms * [204.167.248.198]

hope this helps, getting frustrated having to borrow a server for every match, since the only thing we use our server for is matches. If you need something else let me know.

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